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Post by Karl V » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:20 pm

Posting this here as it seems driving at night is a Nomad thing. Do a search for spotlight dazzle or spotlight aerodynamics and you'll see the uselessness of spotlights, except for looking cool, which is why I have 4! If you don't have 4, you're missing the point.

Anywho, this thread is about the main 'dipped beam'.

Didn't take me long to see a marked difference in visability at night between my BMW X3 and the Nomad.

In the X3, I could see well at night. In the Nomad, I could not. I assumed at first that in the BMW I was all 'meh' and in the Nomad I was laughing hysterically. But then I applied some science (after the adrenaline wore off).

I tried this - https://haynes.com/en-gb/tips-tutorials ... -emergency

It looked like my dipped beam was way off. The left light (on mine) was apparently camera shy and was looking down a foot or so in front. Right light was at least looking up, but too far to the right.

Anywho, I removed the light surrounds, followed the 'rough guide' above and found my favourite Phillips screwdriver.

My results were very much hit and miss. They are better, but I'm sure I'll kill a fox soon (no suspension pun intended).

My question then... Do I need to pay an MOT station to properly align my lights? Halfords will do it for £15 per light. Probably on a Saturday by a YTS employee - https://www.halfordsautocentres.com/car ... -alignment

MOT stations seem to have light diagnostic equipment that will properly sort this stuff out. If I do, what is the dipped beam % rating for a Nomad? It's becoming a bit of a head scratcher - https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/th ... -changing/

It's a dichotomy! My wife doesn't want me here at night. Yet I cannot leave for fear of killing a fox. The nights are also getting longer. Pretty sure this won't end well. For the fox, wife or the Nomad...

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Re: Headlights

Post by Karl V » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:01 pm

Adding a random image to this post because the forum tells me (if I add an image) how many times that image had been viewed - i.e how many people have viewed this post.

Am I the only one with a dodgy headlight alignment?

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Re: Headlights

Post by autobackup » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:33 am

Karl

I would concur that there appears to be liitle attention paid to headlight alignment by the factory

My rebuilt Atom came out of the factory in June with both mainbeam headlights particularly badly misaligned.

Left mainbeam was focussed at about 3-4m in front of the car on the road ahead and the right mainbeam was focussed high, wide & to the right!

That said the dipped beams were not too bad!
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Post by Trigger » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:40 am

Coming back from Europe the other week I ended up driving in the dark for the first time as I got to within 20 miles from home....the dipped beams were focused some 2-3 m in front of the car so pretty useless. The full spot lights on main beam do create a lot of reflection into the windscreen BUT as it lights up the county as well I didnt mind !!

I am planning at some stage to do a lights adjustment - I am not gonna take it anywhere to get it done though as they are so unique and I just want them to shine light on the road - and I think I can do that.

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Post by Karl V » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:48 am

So 15 minutes and a fiver later, I'm back from a visit to my local MOT garage.

I explained that I tweaked the lights myself with the '12 feet from the garage wall' method and wanted a proper check up.

Their initial diagnosis was that the lights were 'bang on', which surprised me given the less than scientific approach. Didn't stop them spending another 10 minutes adjusting them "a gnat's cock". Probably so they can say they've worked on a Nomad...

So what have I learnt???

May be best to have a check of your headlight alignment - especially if you don't normally drive after sunset. The first time I needed mine, I was quite shocked at the set-up.

Also seems the '12 feet from a wall approach' is probably good enough just as a check / rough alignment approach.

Now to go and find me some foxes...

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Re: Headlights

Post by Karl V » Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:51 am

P.s. I did giggle when they asked me to turn on the main beam, staring straight at the front of the car.

They just shrugged at the roof light blare and said 'yeah, thats enough thanks. You can turn them off now'.

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Re: Headlights

Post by Trigger » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:22 pm

Your car looks too clean.

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Re: Headlights

Post by Karl V » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:38 pm

We can fix that next Saturday.

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Re: Headlights

Post by Trigger » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:53 pm

Thats the hope.....

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Post by dunny » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:32 pm

Hi
I took a fancy to a pair of Laser R8 spotlamps so i got some and the very nice chaps in the workshop at Ariel wired them in for me.The first effect of the affor mentioned lamps was to save them the bother of getting a sun tan! I also find that i dont get a problem with running over a fox or anything that is foolish enough to step out in front of me because on high beam they seem to spontaneously combust .This is also a problem because when you turn them off you cant see a bloody thing.
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Re: Headlights

Post by phil4 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:39 pm

dunny wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:32 pm
when you turn them off you cant see a bloody thing.
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Re: Headlights

Post by Karl V » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:20 pm

dunny wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:32 pm
Laser R8 spotlamps
What is this trickery of which you speak Dunny?

I've seen recent FB post of Kesla lights
- https ://www.facebook.com/groups/ariel.club/perm ... 114366342/

Are you running something similar?

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Re: Headlights

Post by dunny » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:26 pm

Hi Karl,
They are LED R8 bar spots with daytime running lights as used by M Sport and the likes.Not cheap but very very good.Check out www.lazerlamps.com With a "z" not an "s" as in my previous lackadaisical correspondence.

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Post by t_kelly94 » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:58 am

Dunny, have you got a picture of how they look?

I'm contemplating either a couple of spots or a long light bar across the top of the whole car...

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Post by dunny » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:07 pm

Hi t,
yep i will sort out a pic when i get around to washing all the bugs off! The units are about 360mm wide and the fixings work in just fine with Ariels lighting bar.I had them wired thru a switch but the daytime running lights do just that and overall give the car a slightly quizzical look. They are not cheap at around £490 apiece but they have a 3year warranty and a 50,000hr lifespan.You can get cheaper ones[i was speaking to a chap at the midsummer bash and he had some that he had bought in America for about £40] but as in all things you get what you pay for.For your info as you are probably going to get carried away with mods;Mud uk does RAM mounts that fit on to the bar running under you dash,Nippy NormansBMW motorcycle accessories[think waterproof] and i got my spots from Devon 4x4. Resist the urge to drill holes in your and car and get some warm wet weather gear your going to need it! If you havent got the handbook for your car yet get on to Henry.It is very good. Overload!! Your going to have a great time!
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