Getting nervous for 1/2/07

[SteveH]

So today is the last DMV day before the mad dash on Tuesday.  How many people on here are going for SB100 numbers?  I went to the DMV yesterday and had a bit of a scary experience but I had a really nice counter girl that worked it out (i think/hope) and she's promised to do it for me Tuesday morning.  I'm still pretty nervous though.  Certainly not a good situation to be in where you have $60,000 riding on something that is totally under the DMV's control and has a time window of perhaps as little as a half hour to get done.

You guys sweating yet?

[bolus]

Good luck!  I'm glad to hear you got everything worked out and will be getting your car. 

[Mr.Woolery]

Yeah, I'm nervous. 

[dp35]

[quote="MrWoolery"]
Yeah, I'm nervous. 
[/quote]

Me too.  Although I think I'm as prepared as a person can be, this thing is literally causing me to lose sleep.  Win or lose, I'm really looking forward to getting past 1/2/07.

[Jammer]

I would be there ar 4 am, on a lawn chair, waiting for the doors to open!

[SteveH]

[quote="Jammer"]
I would be there ar 4 am, on a lawn chair, waiting for the doors to open!
[/quote]


i have a girl to go straight to so getting there early isn't really the crux of it.  The problem that I'm facing is basically that she is competent but the supervisor is not.  So, if she can do it all like she says, it's gonna be a breeze.  If we have to get the manager involved it's going to be a nightmare.

[kenazusa]

[quote="MrWoolery"]
Yeah, I'm nervous.
[/quote]

I would be too.

Pardon my ignorance, but are there 500 of these plates available for the state? It's first come first serve for the whole state, and then you would have to wait another year?

[SteveH]

[quote="KenAZUSA"]
[quote="MrWoolery"]
Yeah, I'm nervous.
[/quote]

I would be too.

Pardon my ignorance, but are there 500 of these plates available for the state? It's first come first serve for the whole state, and then you would have to wait another year?
[/quote]


that's pretty much the drill.  It's not a plate but a sequence number that is basically a giant "get out of jail free" card for SMOG and other stuff.  500/year for the whole state.  They were gone by 10:30 on 1/2/06.

[Karl]

SB100 makes provisions ONLY for smog, nothing else.  It is entirely possible to register a kit car in CA, free of limitations, as long as you use a relatively stock (i.e. transplanted from an otherwise normal, CA-legal car) engine.

[Kempo]

Good luck to all of you taking a shot at this.

[Bruce Fielding]

...from talkaboutautos.com...

SB100

Perhaps the single greatest contribution to the California kit car
builder comes from Senator K. Maurice Johannessen, who penned SB1911
(struck down by the California Air Resources Board...although Gov.
Davis - in a letter that contained exactly the verbage of a letter from
CARB - said he would not sign the bill), and then refurbished it to be
SB100. The differences between the bills being that SB100 limits the
number of cars that can be registered to 500; the previous bill had no
such restriction.

The newer - and passed! - legislation allows private builders to
register their cars as smog exempt - assuming that you meet all of the
necessary criteria.

In a nutshell, SB100 allows you to register your car as a BRAND NEW
car (called a 'SPCN'), with a 1965 smog exemption. Do not attempt to
register your kit in California with a bogus Alabama title, or sneak
past the DMV...they'll eventually find you and impound your car. And if
you signed any paper making any kind of bogus claim...well, you sign
all of those papers "under penalty of perjury," which could mean jail
time. Don't lose your car, don't go to jail, just follow the steps
outlined below.


What California Is Looking For

First and foremost, the DMV isn't looking to keep your car off the
road. I'm sure that if you could drive it, they'd license a tree. What
they are interested in is getting their fees. This is the most
important part of the whole license process, and the part that seems to
throw up the most red flags. Red flags are bad. How you can avoid
getting in any trouble is to be able to five an accurate number when
asked how much your car costs. Don't say it's been in storage for
years. Don't say you got it for an absurdly low amount of money. The
DMV - contrary to every counter person I've ever had to deal with at
any of the local offices - isn't stupid. Bring receipts, documents that
show how, where and for how much you purchased parts for, etc. A good
median line for Cobras is between $25,000 and $50,000. Be prepared to
pay title, tax and licensing fees on that amount.

The Hoops You Must Jump Through To Get Registered

The new SB100 law allows the first 500 people per year to pretty
much fly through the registration process. If you pay attention to what
I write, California registration is absurdly easy.... Just make sure
that you have all of the necessary documentation with you and ready
when you go to the DMV, and make sure the person you're talking to at
the DMV is fully aware of what a kit car is (SPCN), and that they know
all about SB100.


Preparation:

Get a 1-gallon zip-lock plastic baggie. You'll need this to hold
all of your paperwork. Do not use a file folder. The reasoning behind
this is based on eight separate registrations I've done; you have to
keep all of the paperwork with the car at all times that it's on the
street until such time as you complete the entire registration process.
Putting the paperwork in a zip-lock baggie prevents it from (a)
slipping out of the folder or blowing out of the car; and (b) it keeps
it from getting wet in the event you are driving the car in inclimate
weather. Papers will fall out of the folder. And you may lose them.
That would be bad. Listen to Meat: use a baggie. Oh, and the one gallon
baggie isn't quite exactly big enough to hold all the papers, so fold
them in half and zip the baggie closed when it's in the car.

Step 1: Initial DMV Visit

Make sure you've emptied your bladder before you go, this will be
the longest trip. It's also the most important trip, since it will set
up your car in the DMV computer. Do have everything in order. Do have
your receipts. Do pay close attention to what the clerk is entering
into the computer in reference to your car. They have been known to
make mistakes. While these mistakes can usually be corrected, I
personally dislike spending too much time in the DMV, and since I'm
registering a car that is open to interpretation depending on the
attitude and knowledge of the clerk I just want to put on one show and
then retire.

If you can, schedule an appointment. If not, don't come in with a
chip on your shoulder. Be cheerful and happy to have spent most of the
day in line. Don't tell the clerk how to do their job.

You'll need to have an "Application for Registration" and a
"Statement of Facts" form filled out. Both of these forms are available
from the DMV. On the "Statement of Facts" form, make sure you fill out
the "Vehicle Construction Statement as well as the back of the
Statement of Facts form.

Additionally, make sure that you visit the DMV site page that is
specifically for Specially Constructed Vehicles
(http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/spcns.htm).
Also, make sure that the clerk
doing the input had the DMV memorandum book open in front of them.
There is a specific memo that is related to SB100, it's VR-2002-25. The
clerk MUST read this, and understand it. If they are unwilling to get
the book, ask to see the supervisor. This memo tells the clerk EXACTLY
how to input the information into the computer.

Make sure that the clerk enters the information correctly, and that
the vehicle is set up as a current model year SPCN. It's very important
that they also assign you a SB100 number - the only way they can get
the SB100 number is to call Sacramento. Do not leave the DMV without
your SB100 number!!!

In order to get a temporary VIN number into the computer, you must
bring down the Manufacturers Statement of Origin (the "MSO" which
should have been generated by the kit manufacturer and shipped to you
with your kit).

On the Statement of Facts form, make sure you mention that you
built the car.

Now get out your checkbook and write a big fat check.

This will complete the first step, and you will now have a SB100
number, a temporary VIN number, and - most important - you'll have a
big pink sticker to put on your windshield that will allow you to
legally drive your car on the street for a few months!


Step 2: Visiting the CHP

You have to set an appointment to visit the CHP. There is no
central number to set the appointment, you simply call the office
closest to you, and tell them that you have a kit car that needs to
have a VIN number assigned to it per SB100.

This is actually the most time-consuming part. Not because it's
hard, but because most CHP offices have a waiting list. You'll spend
most of the time after you leave the DMV (step one) waiting to go to
the CHP appointment! t usually takes a month or so to get an opening.

Take all of the paperwork the DMV gave you and show up promptly for
your appointment. Make sure that you have receipts showing every VIN
number for the engine, transmission, etc. You must have a bill of sale
for all of these parts. The CHP checks the Big CHP Computer for stolen
parts.

The CHP will look over your paperwork, make sure you don't have any
stolen parts on the car, and then they will get a new VIN number from
the State, and affix a tamper-proof VIN number plate to your car. I
would recommend that you find a nice place to put the VIN number before
you get to the BAR. Don't let them attach the VIN number to a
fiberglass part of the car, have them attach the VIN number to a
chassis or frame rail. Some place it can be easily read, but not
mounted on a part of the car that can be removed.

Once you have the VIN number, you can set an appointment to visit
the BAR and get your car smogged. Make sure that the CHP completed the
proper paperwork, and put it back in your baggie.


Step 3: Visiting the BAR (Bureau of Automotive Repair)

To set an appointment with the BAR, you have to call the Sacramento
office. You cannot take the car down to a local smog station. To set
the appointment, call: (800) 622-7733 - YOU CANNOT SET AN APPOINTMENT
UNTIL THE CHP ISSUES YOU A VIN NUMBER. They will give you a few local
BAR stations to go to. Make sure that you tell them that you're
registering a kit car for the first time under SB100. The reason you
want to tell them this is because the referee has to inspect your car,
and the regional manager guy has to be there, too. The total inspection
time they set up for you will be about two hours. The actual time it
takes to smog the car is about 20 minutes.

When you show up for your appointment, make sure that you have all
of your fluids topped off. The BAR will not look at your car unless it
has the proper amount of coolant and oil.

There are two ways to smog your car under SB100. One is by the year
of the engine - which is fine if you have all of your smog equipment on
the car for the year of the engine - including all catalytic
converters, etc. The other way - the BEST way - is to smog the car
according to the bodystyle. The Cobra is a 1965 bodystyle, and,
consequently, is smog exempt.

Tell the referee that you want the car smogged by BODYSTYLE.

What will happen is the car will be taken around to the work bay
and put up on a dyno. The referee will take smog levels and record
them. Then they will reset the numbers to EXEMPT in the computer. The
sole reason you go to the BAR is so that they can record levels. It
doesn't cost you a dime.

After taking the levels, the BAR will issue a sticker that they
will affix to the car. It's about the size of a standard 3x5" index
card. Find a place to mount this beforehand (it has a barcode on it, so
it has to be visible) that is away from any engine solvents in the
engine compartment. After they stick the thing on, you may want to add
a bit of protection to the card. I have found that the UPS guys use a
transparent tape that still allows the barcode to be scanned. You may
want to check it out. If the sticker becomes unreadable sometime in the
future, you will have to have the car re-inspected.

If you chose bodystyle (like I've said!), then skip on ahead to
Step 4. If you didn't here are a few other tidbits about engines in CA
(just in case you get a wild hair and decide you want to register the
car by the engine year). This is why you don't want to go with year of
the engine. Just about none of it applies to registering the car by
bodystyle (you do have to have a closed crankcase (PCV, Sealed filler
Cap, Air cleaner to C/Case hose) on a 1965 car):

Even though under SB100 you will not be subject to the biannual
smog inspection, your car does have to have all of the equipment that
came on it for the year of the bodystyle (1965) when you first go to
register the car. Additionally, the engine that you can use in a SPCN
car has to have been originally installed in a passenger car or light
truck that was approved (by the BAR...go figure!) for sale and use in
California (in 1965 they all were!). The engine MUST have all of the
smog control devices that were used on the California Vehicle the
engine came out of, and these devices must be intact and operational.
Period. If you do not have all of these items, you will fail, and your
car will not be assigned a BAR number. Here are some guidelines for
equipment that came on California-model vehicles, as well as their
applications:

1955 and Newer: Closed crankcase (PCV, Sealed filler Cap, Air
cleaner to C/Case hose).

1966 and Newer: Exhaust Emission Controls (Air Cleaner, Carburetor,
Distributor, Air Pump, EGR, Vacuum valves, ECU, Sensors, etc.). Pretty
much everything related to the operation of that big air pump we call
an 'engine' is considered an emission control device. Your car, when it
gets it's BAR number has to have all of the STOCK devices intact and
operating. You cannot change carburetors, air cleaners, distributor,
etc. STOCK. I can't stress this enough.

1970 and Newer: Evaporative Emission Controls (Gas tank, Gas Cap,
vapor separator, valves, charcoal canister, etc.). The inspection will
include everything right down to the gas cap...make sure it's there, if
it came on the original California car.

The year of the engine is established by the year the block was
made. The Referee has all kinds of information at his disposal that
will allow him to establish the year the block was made. The year of
the engine block is what the BAR uses to establish the equipment
requirements your car will have to meet.

Further, just because the block came out of a California-registered
car that doesn't necessarily mean that the block is legal, either. The
block had to have been approved for sale in California. Cars that came
in from out of state and were registered here may not have engines in
them that were approved for sale in California. These engines are not
for use in SPCN cars that are to be registered for the first time in
California without being retrofitted with the necessary pollution
control devices that were used on that engine in California the year
the block was manufactured. So a good safety tip, when looking for your
donor car, is to make sure the emission sticker under the hood says the
car was approved for sale in California.

Additionally, no mixing and matching of parts is allowed, although
sometimes parts from newer models are California approved for
replacement of older systems (you will have to have factory
documentation or California Air Resources Board Approval notices before
these systems are approved for use in your vehicle). All of the
emission control pieces have to be for the specific engine that you are
using. However, if your vehicle is using a 1970 or newer engine, the
gas tank can be from any California vehicle that had an approved
evaporative emission control system.

I recommend getting a 1965 or older block. That will certainly
speed things along.

Having read all that, here's what will actually happen:

The Referee will do a very thorough Smog Check and inspection of
your car. If you pass it, your car will be issued a sticker (which the
BAR will affix to your car...make sure they put it on a part of the car
that doesn't come off alot. They like to put it in doorjambs. See if
you can get it put on the chassis. If you lose this sticker, you have
to go through this entire process again!!!), with a bar code that will
allow any Smog Check station to do the Biannual smog check - as may be
required - for your car.

If you fail the test, do not leave just yet! The Referee will tell
you exactly why you failed, and can even give you a list of what you
need to do to get the car to pass the inspection. The BAR Referee is
the person who makes the decision about your car, so he is the best
source of information on what it will take to get your car to pass.
Additionally, make sure that when you have to get a re-test that you go
to this same BAR Inspection site and have all of the things the Referee
listed corrected. The BAR Inspection site must give you one free
re-test . Use it wisely.

THAT'S why you want to register by BODYSTYLE!

Have I made that clear enough yet?

Step 4: Brake and Light Inspection
This step isn't necessarily always a given; if the DMV forgets to
mark it on your list of things to do, then you do not have to
voluntarily get a B&L. If you do, your car has to have working turn
signals (front and rear), headlights, taillights, gauge lights, and -
this is important - a backup light. Cobras generally have not provision
for a backup light, so you'll have to add one. Even if it's only
temporary for the inspection. These can be purchased from Pep Boys.

Step 5: Return To The DMV.
The easiest step of all. You go here, turn in all of the paperwork,
you've aquired, get your license plates, and leave. That's it. You're
done. Congratulations!

What I would recommend for your records would be to make copies of
every single scrap of paper you have. The DMV will take all of the
receipts, all of the MSO stuff, and it will be (in theory) moved up to
Sacramento). JUST TO BE SAFE - you should have a set, too!

[Alec]

Just paying Ariel in the UK to do the SVA seems so much easier, I suppose we are lucky here.

Anyway, good luck to everyone going for it in a few days time, I hope you are all successful. 

[wgriswold]

Thank you Bruce for the write-up above.  There was some new info there for me.

Now that I have SB100 sequence #, I'm soon to head to CHP for VIN plate and then to BAR for SB100 sticker that you say is the size of an idex card (and needs weather-proofing).

For people who have affixed these to their ATOMs, where have been their preferred locations?  I assume the SB100 plate can be welded right near the 17-digit # that Brammo already put on it.  But where to put the SB100 index card??

[Driver]

Have the card incased in thicker plastic, drill holes in all four corners and attach it to the plastic cowl between the two bubbles?.