Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
I have a track event tomorrow, and noticed this today during a visual inspection. Does this look right?
[img width=800 height=600]http://www.evilatom.com/forum/axle_space.jpg[/img]
This is on a Brammo Atom 2, and it's an old photo from when the exhaust system was being fabricated. Is that much of the machined silver part of the passenger-side axle end supposed to be visible, or should it reside further inside the end of the intermediate shaft end coupling? When I pull on the axle slightly (as the car is sitting on the ground and nothing is taken apart), the end has a millimeter or two of lateral movement possible relative to the intermediate shaft mounted in a fixed position to the block.
Can someone measure the amount of that machined silver part that is exposed and let me know if the photo above looks normal?
Thanks in advance.
[img width=800 height=600]http://www.evilatom.com/forum/axle_space.jpg[/img]
This is on a Brammo Atom 2, and it's an old photo from when the exhaust system was being fabricated. Is that much of the machined silver part of the passenger-side axle end supposed to be visible, or should it reside further inside the end of the intermediate shaft end coupling? When I pull on the axle slightly (as the car is sitting on the ground and nothing is taken apart), the end has a millimeter or two of lateral movement possible relative to the intermediate shaft mounted in a fixed position to the block.
Can someone measure the amount of that machined silver part that is exposed and let me know if the photo above looks normal?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
i just checked mine, on the right hand side where you have the raised machined lip, I do not have that or mine doesn't show at all, only the smaller diameter portion shows....at the left hand side of the smaller diameter portion there is an even smaller diameter portion which I think is also in your photo but can't telll for sure.
there is absolutely no travel in my axles if I try to pull them left and right..
there is absolutely no travel in my axles if I try to pull them left and right..
Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
Checked mine.. that is normal. Curbside is right at an inch. Street side is about 1/8". The reason for the discrepancy is that Curbside outer shaft does not have a seal therefore it's all exposed. The curbside inner shaft looks the same as the streetside because they both have an oil seal to the trans.
Good to go.. bring back pics!
Good to go.. bring back pics!
Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
Positron
umm, why is mine different, and what the hell is curbside and streetside, wouldn't that depend on which direction you parked the car...why can't you make it easy and say right or left, or passenger side driver side.
no but seriously, mine IS different....and I don't understand your terminology...I know whatever you said is correct, but I don't understand it.
umm, why is mine different, and what the hell is curbside and streetside, wouldn't that depend on which direction you parked the car...why can't you make it easy and say right or left, or passenger side driver side.
no but seriously, mine IS different....and I don't understand your terminology...I know whatever you said is correct, but I don't understand it.
Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
Guess I'm used to bus terminology where there is no driver/passenger left/right so in the US curbside = passenger/right hand etc etc..
Especially when you start talking about the left side of the right hand shaft on the right hand of the passenger side of the north bound train from Chicago traveling at 82 mph with a headwind of 10 knots...
I must have some other version, but I thought you and I were pretty close in serial number, but I just got mine back from DLS.
Especially when you start talking about the left side of the right hand shaft on the right hand of the passenger side of the north bound train from Chicago traveling at 82 mph with a headwind of 10 knots...
I must have some other version, but I thought you and I were pretty close in serial number, but I just got mine back from DLS.
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Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
I'm vin 60 what is yours? And what's DLS? And thanks for the explanation
Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
73.. DriveLine Shop.. Post up a pic.. now I'm curious.. I guess alot could have happened in those last few death gasping months..
Anyway since the RH outboard shaft is most likely for some other application it's got a machined surface if it were needed to be inserted into a trans housing requiring an oil seal but since it's only in a ball bearing there is no need, only for rust to grow.. the middle extension shaft seals the trans.
Anyway since the RH outboard shaft is most likely for some other application it's got a machined surface if it were needed to be inserted into a trans housing requiring an oil seal but since it's only in a ball bearing there is no need, only for rust to grow.. the middle extension shaft seals the trans.
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Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
best i can do at the moment....on the "curbside" there is NO machined bit at a larger diameter before entering into the black portion...I know the flash makes it harder to tell for sure but, that's what I've got
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Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
Moving from left to right (need Bolus to put in some arrows).. the first is the RH most portion of the middle shaft, the next(smallest) step down is the splines, the next, about an inch, is what would be the sealing surface, the next black one is the transition to CV bearing housing..
Sorry man, you is the same as us non Texicans..
Sorry man, you is the same as us non Texicans..
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Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
So its the same but that portion you and lane have where the diameter is the largest as it enters the black portion on the farthest right side on mine is most likely totally inside the black part....it works so I'm not worried
Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
To get a solution, first we MUST assume that the trains were traveling at the same constant rate of speed.
Lets assume that the trains traveled for a while until they got to 279 miles each. After that, the first train kept going for another hour and a half, and got up to mile marker 372. The difference between the two distances is 97 miles, and it took the train 1 1/2 hours to go that 97 miles. So how fast did it go? 97 miles/1.5 hours can be done easily on your calculator or by hand.
The second way is to actually set up an algebra problem. To do this, we'll need a time, H, which we can treat just like it's a number, but we don't know what number it is... and it will end up canceling itself out.
The second train went a certain distance, 279 miles, in a certain time, H. The first train went 372 miles in the time H plus another 1.5 hours. The speeds of the trains were the same, so we can set the equation up this way:
279/H = 372/(H+1.5) = 372/H + 372/1.5
Lets assume that the trains traveled for a while until they got to 279 miles each. After that, the first train kept going for another hour and a half, and got up to mile marker 372. The difference between the two distances is 97 miles, and it took the train 1 1/2 hours to go that 97 miles. So how fast did it go? 97 miles/1.5 hours can be done easily on your calculator or by hand.
The second way is to actually set up an algebra problem. To do this, we'll need a time, H, which we can treat just like it's a number, but we don't know what number it is... and it will end up canceling itself out.
The second train went a certain distance, 279 miles, in a certain time, H. The first train went 372 miles in the time H plus another 1.5 hours. The speeds of the trains were the same, so we can set the equation up this way:
279/H = 372/(H+1.5) = 372/H + 372/1.5
Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
Exactly what I was thinking lol
Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
Great, thanks for checking guys. Glad to know this is normal, and I won't be worrying about it.
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Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
Car is normal.. as to my friend Silver and I.. well that's another story..
Re: Is this normal (axle)? - Urgent, impending track event
All three of you guys are wrong. Here is what it should look like (I'm sure it doesn't matter if you guys are just missing the protective rubber bushing that keeps grit out of there)
[img width=800 height=450]http://bolus.shackspace.com/atom/axle-F.jpg[/img]
[img width=800 height=450]http://bolus.shackspace.com/atom/axle_passenger.jpg[/img]
[img width=800 height=450]http://bolus.shackspace.com/atom/axle_passenger2.jpg[/img]
[img width=800 height=450]http://bolus.shackspace.com/atom/axle-F.jpg[/img]
[img width=800 height=450]http://bolus.shackspace.com/atom/axle_passenger.jpg[/img]
[img width=800 height=450]http://bolus.shackspace.com/atom/axle_passenger2.jpg[/img]
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