Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
All I know is that this probobly saved me from a ticket today. I got pulled over... for doing 63 in a 55. I kinda looked at the cop like... umm... ok.. and then he basically just looked at the car, checked to make sure I had insurance and registration, and then didn't even write me a warning, just sent me on my way.
If I would have been doing 70... might have been a different story
If I would have been doing 70... might have been a different story
Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
I've just found the copy of the SPA dash manual that someone posted.
The relevant section mentions whether the Trigg points are taken from wheel RPM or from a differential so this is probably where the factor of 8 comes in.
A copy of this section is attached below.
The relevant section mentions whether the Trigg points are taken from wheel RPM or from a differential so this is probably where the factor of 8 comes in.
A copy of this section is attached below.
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Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
Alec, that's not the issue though. Say we take a Honda car, we can scale it all we want:
1855mm circumference with 1 trigger point
2710mm circumference with 2 trigger points
5420mm circumference with 3 trigger points
But if we take the theoretical GM F35, which outputs 85 pulses per revolution of the output shaft, it should look like this:
1855mm circumference with 85 trigger points
371mm circumference with 17 trigger points
109mm circumference with 5 trigger points
So unless Brammo modified the speed sensor to spin 8x slower, I'm not sure what's going on here. Maybe they put the signal into a binary counter and are pulling the 4th bit? It doesn't make much sense.
1855mm circumference with 1 trigger point
2710mm circumference with 2 trigger points
5420mm circumference with 3 trigger points
But if we take the theoretical GM F35, which outputs 85 pulses per revolution of the output shaft, it should look like this:
1855mm circumference with 85 trigger points
371mm circumference with 17 trigger points
109mm circumference with 5 trigger points
So unless Brammo modified the speed sensor to spin 8x slower, I'm not sure what's going on here. Maybe they put the signal into a binary counter and are pulling the 4th bit? It doesn't make much sense.
Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
I've just found a piece of information on the Toyo Tyre manufacturers page that may explain what is happening.
For a 225/45 ZR16 Tyre it is quoting that 872 is the number of Revs Per Mile.
Toyo R888
As this is only 1 away from the 873 that seems to work, could the setting be the number of revolutions and not the circumference?
For a 225/45 ZR16 Tyre it is quoting that 872 is the number of Revs Per Mile.
Toyo R888
As this is only 1 away from the 873 that seems to work, could the setting be the number of revolutions and not the circumference?
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Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
If the "Circumference" setting is in revs/distance rather than distance/rev, then Bottoz' factory setting of 800 would have caused the speedometer to read faster than true, not slower.
Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
I'd forgotten the original setting was lower so didn't think it through and when I saw the Revs Per Mile number so close to the final setting that worked I just jumped to a conclusion.
Next time I'll think before I type.
Next time I'll think before I type.
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Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
I never received any manuals on my SPA dash. Is there anywhere I can download a PDF file for the SPA dash on the Atom?
Cheersâ?¢
Cheersâ?¢
Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
[quote="maverick1"]
I never received any manuals on my SPA dash. Is there anywhere I can download a PDF file for the SPA dash on the Atom?
Cheersâ?¢
[/quote]
The link is in the first post of this thread on page one.
I never received any manuals on my SPA dash. Is there anywhere I can download a PDF file for the SPA dash on the Atom?
Cheersâ?¢
[/quote]
The link is in the first post of this thread on page one.
Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
[quote="maverick1"]
I never received any manuals on my SPA dash. Is there anywhere I can download a PDF file for the SPA dash on the Atom?
Cheersâ?¢
[/quote]
Dude, you need to read all my posts and memorize them
I never received any manuals on my SPA dash. Is there anywhere I can download a PDF file for the SPA dash on the Atom?
Cheersâ?¢
[/quote]
Dude, you need to read all my posts and memorize them
Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
[quote="bolus"]
[quote="maverick1"]
I never received any manuals on my SPA dash. Is there anywhere I can download a PDF file for the SPA dash on the Atom?
Cheersâ?¢
[/quote]
Dude, you need to read all my posts and memorize them
[/quote]
Went to the link (http://bolus.shackspace.com/atom/SPA.pdf) and it will not download for some reason.
cheers
[quote="maverick1"]
I never received any manuals on my SPA dash. Is there anywhere I can download a PDF file for the SPA dash on the Atom?
Cheersâ?¢
[/quote]
Dude, you need to read all my posts and memorize them
[/quote]
Went to the link (http://bolus.shackspace.com/atom/SPA.pdf) and it will not download for some reason.
cheers
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Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
[quote="maverick1"]
I never received any manuals on my SPA dash. Is there anywhere I can download a PDF file for the SPA dash on the Atom?
Cheersâ?¢
[/quote]
Club members can access it in the guides section of the main atomclub site
I never received any manuals on my SPA dash. Is there anywhere I can download a PDF file for the SPA dash on the Atom?
Cheersâ?¢
[/quote]
Club members can access it in the guides section of the main atomclub site
Ariel Atom Owners Club founder, based in Central London
Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
Guys I got a different setting also using a second GPS speedo. My optimal circumference setting is 850 not the 873 Bottoz got. I tried 873 and when the SPA dash showed 40mph the GPS speedo read 38 so I knew I needed to lower the cir setting.
When I plugged in 850 I got a perfect match.
I guess I should also add that I have the Yoko ES-100 tires which might explain the difference in the settings.
cheers
When I plugged in 850 I got a perfect match.
I guess I should also add that I have the Yoko ES-100 tires which might explain the difference in the settings.
cheers
Last edited by maverick1 on Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Speedometer/Standard Dash 'Circumference'
Alright! I'm glad some tinkering with the dash produced successful results.
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