Brake adjustment

[Curves Junkie]

[quote="John Scherrer"]
Yes, here's a picture taken from outside the car (car is Right Hand Drive).[/quote]
Is it correct that I can mount the bias where ever I want. On the left or on the right side of the adjuster shaft is equal.

[quote="John Scherrer"]
In your 1st post, you say :-

"My ariel has at the front the 'Alcon Big Brake Kit' and at rear the 'Sport Brake Package'.
Both pushrods have the same length. The front master cylinder have 5/8'' and the rear 0.7'' diameter."

I think this may be incorrect, the rear is usually 5/8", the front 0.7" ?
If you have Alcons at the rear, the 5/8 is usually replaced by another 0.7.

The clutch is also 0.7" ..
[/quote]

Oh god, it's my mistage. I have correct my first post now. In the picture I made it correct. 
clutch master cylinder have 0.7''
front master cylinder have 0.7''
rear master cylinder have 5/8''
Front

Rear

Btw.
What kind of calipers are on front and rear because I don't find this caliper which can fit the brake pipe at the side.

[John Scherrer]

Well you could probably mount it at either end but you'd need to be very sure that the cable didn't interfere or limit operation of any of the mechanism.

Also, the dash adjuster label showing turn clockwise for more rear bias would be back to front ..

[Curves Junkie]

Ok, thx John when the bias adjuster comes I will test it first before installing.

My ariel has at the front the 'Alcon Big Brake Kit' and at rear the 'Sport Brake Package'.

Are my brake the correct one what I wrote in my first post?
And what kind of calipers are on front and rear because I don't find this caliper which can fit the brake pipe at the side.

[John Scherrer]

The Alcon parts are custom made for Ariel, so you may not find much information in the public domain.

I'm not sure what make the rear sport brake package are - I have Alcons all round myself.

[smokin]

Sports brake rears are MGF / MG TF, I believe. Part # SMC000460

[Curves Junkie]

[quote="John Scherrer"]
The Alcon parts are custom made for Ariel, so you may not find much information in the public domain.

I'm not sure what make the rear sport brake package are - I have Alcons all round myself.
[/quote]

Ah, now I understand why I don't find informations about the brake.
The only thing I found is that Alcon is quite expensive with the calipers - more than ap-racing.
And the informations from alcon about their products at the web are terrible.

Hm, where to get spare parts here in Germany? Where found spare parts numbers?
Surprise maybe. 

[quote="smokin"]
Sports brake rears are MGF / MG TF, I believe. Part # SMC000460
[/quote]
lol, from this car: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_F_/_MG_TF

[smokin]

Mintex MDB1992M1144FF (factory standard) or Pagid RS4-2 for the front

Alcon caliper part # CAR3653D14ASLT / CAR3653D14ASRT and Alcon discs part # DIV2150X063GL / DIV2150X063GR but you can only buy from factory

and yes, still a few MG / Rover parts (even on new Atoms)

[John Scherrer]

Alcon Caliper Part No Key :-

[K20A2]

As John wrote if you like to follow the marks "F" and "R" on the adjuster you should connect the cable at the right side of the adjusting screw (looking from back to front of the Atom).
To do so you would have to drill holes into your boot.

Not sure whether there might be Brake Bias Adjusters showing the marks the other way around.
Could be worth a research.

[smokin]

The Wilwood adjuster comes with two labels

http://www.wilwood.com/Pedals/PedalProd.aspx?itemno=340-4990

And I suspect so does the Tilton

[Curves Junkie]

[quote="smokin"]
Alcon caliper part # CAR3653D14ASLT / CAR3653D14ASRT and Alcon discs part # DIV2150X063GL / DIV2150X063GR
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Thx, @smokin for the part-numbers and @John Scherer for the PDF.
Now I can decrypt the caliper, not the rotor. 
A little bit wondering because a unusual disc diameter with 304 mm.
and more surprised with two equal pistons. I think for this lightweight car it's better to use 2 different pistons e.g. 31.8/34.9 or 34.9/38.1 mm

[quote="K20A2"]
As John wrote if you like to follow the marks "F" and "R" on the adjuster you should connect the cable at the right side of the adjusting screw (looking from back to front of the Atom).
To do so you would have to drill holes into your boot.

Not sure whether there might be Brake Bias Adjusters showing the marks the other way around.
Could be worth a research.
[/quote]
No no, I don't drill a hole in my boot. Here is the only place where I can do my dry spare pants and socks.
With this 90 degree coupler it's maybe a solution to fix it on the right side.
I will report if Titons adjuster comes with one or two label, I had ordered at isa last week.

[K20A2]

Good idea with the 90º coupler.
Fingers crossed that there is enough space next to the boot.
If so it should become the standard solution for the LHD Atoms

[Curves Junkie]

[quote="K20A2"]
Not sure whether there might be Brake Bias Adjusters showing the marks the other way around.
[/quote]

Today I get the Tilton Brake bias adjuster from isa-racing. 
In the box are two labels ('R' clockwise or 'F' clockwise) and both coupler (3/8'' and 7/16'').

[Curves Junkie]

Sorry I had forgotten to report. 

At my LHD Ariel I can't attach the adjuster on the left side of the adjustment shaft because there is the clutch clevis and the shaft is on this side to short.
So I had to use the right side.



If I mount it on the right side I have to drill two holes in the 'boot'. That's not that what I want to do- so I ordered the Tilton 90° coupler 7/16'' SKU: 72-561

First I had to truncate the cable. In the instruction I wrote that I have to braze the cable first at the cutting point. With normal tin-solder - no chance I had to use silver-solder.



Enough distance to the boat. All fine.