Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

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DarthChicken

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by DarthChicken » Sat Oct 27, 2007 12:48 am

I get the same thing... to me, it sounds and feels like the brake pads sticking to the rotors after you wash your car.  Or maybe the e-brake pads clunking.  Its definitely something you can feel more than you can hear.

maverick1

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by maverick1 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:06 am

Glad to know I have some company on this matter. It doesn't happen all the time just intermittently.
cheers

silver

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by silver » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:16 am

Try this......pull up to a stop sign....push the clutch in....move the gear into first...THUNK..at least that's thunk #1, there are actually several thunks that occur on my car.  just want to see how many occur on y'alls

MadMaxedAtom

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by MadMaxedAtom » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:08 am

Turn up the radio.... ;D

rfmarz@frontiernet

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by rfmarz@frontiernet » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:13 pm

My noise has nothing to do with the brakes as it was after a high G left turn on 2nd gear out of turn 2 at Hallett. Could it be a side shift in the axle  which gets corrected with application of full throttle?

rfmarz@frontiernet

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by rfmarz@frontiernet » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:12 pm

I'd just love to think that the noise is something as innocuous as a shifting brake pad, but sometimes it is so loud and creates a significant vibration. I guess I can just hope that it is. Spanky, which brake package did you install? I have the Wilwood (track package).

silver

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by silver » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:34 pm

Just to chime in with this...I have the track package, and my thunking occurred in the warmer weather....I haven't driven the car in colder weather

MadMaxedAtom

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by MadMaxedAtom » Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:57 pm

^ you have cold weather? ;D

silver

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by silver » Thu Dec 27, 2007 7:13 pm

yeah, anything under 70 is cold.....it's 41 today  :'(

positron

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by positron » Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:26 am

[quote="rfmarz"]
My noise has nothing to do with the brakes as it was after a high G left turn on 2nd gear out of turn 2 at Hallett. Could it be a side shift in the axle  which gets corrected with application of full throttle?
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Mine too, I'm checking to see why I only have about an inch travel on rear shocks. It appears that they have been bottoming out against yellow stopper. Am watching front door step for corner scales that Santa ordered to try my hand at leveling the car and suspension adjustment.

dingo

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by dingo » Wed May 14, 2008 12:19 am

All pros, no cons and for the reason(s) you've declared.
Measure the distance from the shock body end to the adjuster seat as it is now.

Remove springs and reinstall in reverse, but as you are about it, screw the retainer further up the damper body than where it has been. 

If you've only got one inch of compression, then you have a great chance of bottoming out the damper compressing the polyurethane bump stop.
 
If it were my shocks, I'd screw that seat half an inch tighter.
The result will be a slightly higher ride height but more available compression.
You can reduce any extra ride height that by shortening the push rods by two full turns on both sides. 
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positron

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by positron » Wed May 14, 2008 1:52 am

[quote="Spanky"]
it places the connector that is between the helper spring and the main spring to be just behond the shock body. What this does is that when the spring starts to compress, the inside of the connector strikes the corner of the shock body making noise. I took the shock springs off and found that the alum. connector had a lot of metal worn away. And the threads near that end of the shock has a lot of black anodizing worn away from the top of the threads.  So I consulted a Koni racing retailer and their tech help said I should swap my springs end for end. This would place the connector well down on the threaded body so it will never travel off & on the end of the body. I am sure someone has already tried this. Any pros & cons?

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Can this been seen while assembled and did the wear have any orientation? ie tops/bottoms. I'm not seeing any signs of this on mine but not sure if I'm seeing correctly.

positron

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by positron » Wed May 14, 2008 3:15 am

I see what your talking about now. Mine is rubbing the threads outboard, both sides but on the driver's side the spring is biased closer to the top of the threaded barrel. It appears that the spring is bowing instead of compressing linearly. It also appears that it has been rubbing the intake tube more regularly than I had thought. I thought that I had just had the tube too close but it appears  that the springs bow quite regularly.

I'm not understanding how reversing the springs will help the bowing, seems the middle has the most defection potential no matter it's orientation. Maybe only what it hits? May need UHMW bushings to maintain parallel interference with tube.. Is that possible with the arc of the bellcrank?

Krap.. more money for upgraded springs...

DarthChicken

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by DarthChicken » Wed May 14, 2008 3:18 am

I'm betting its the bellcrank geometry.  Its twisting things just enough out of alignment while the suspension is partially compressed, so the springs can't twist with it.

positron

Re: Clunk sound sometimes when either first accelerating or braking...strange

Post by positron » Wed May 14, 2008 4:32 am

Found this interesting.. search for Why springs bow. http://www.stockcarproducts.com/spgtech.htm

"spring rate will increase if active coil rubs another part of the race car."

I'm assuming the rate increases while it's bound to shock barrel and then when it let's go causes the car to shift. I found that shift/side step disturbing mid corner in the corkscrew..
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