READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

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Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by Bruce Fielding » Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:56 am

I'm not technical, so I have no idea about what effect pictures have on the site bandwidth etc.. As I said, merely an observation... If it doesn't cause problems, then that's fine.

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by Driver » Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:41 am

[quote="Bruce Fielding"]
In which case is it possible to set up the forum so that these threads don't show up on your unread posts alert unless you're registered?

I'm going to get tired fast of seeing 'new' linking to threads I have no interest in and can't post in...[/quote]

It would have to be done with groups, but (and I haven't researched this about SMF) the current way groups function is not public. Its a manual, intensive setup. PhpBB and other types of forum software deal with groups differently with public and private groups that are easy to join and such. Maybe this is something that can be done at the admin level but I don't have access tot hat screen. When I get time and am not dead on my feet I'll look at the online docs/manuals for SMF.

Oh & Ditto what Silver and TK said... :)

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by Terry Kennedy » Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:00 am

[quote="Bruce Fielding"]
The first two of these type of threads seem to be quite picture-rich. Is this the best use of our bandwidth and server space?
[/quote]

1) Right-click on each picture and select "Properties".
2) Note that the photos are not hosted on the forum.
3) Retract comment. ;D

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by silver » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:37 pm

A: the pictures take up what....3 mb...jesus christ if you aren't stingy with your bandwidth :doh:

and B: hell yes we need pictures...........THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS WITHOUT PICS....build threads need detailed pics so others can really see what's being done.


ok so that's my opinion

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by Bruce Fielding » Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:22 pm

Another observation...

The first two of these type of threads seem to be quite picture-rich. Is this the best use of our bandwidth and server space?

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by Bruce Fielding » Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:04 pm

In which case is it possible to set up the forum so that these threads don't show up on your unread posts alert unless you're registered?

I'm going to get tired fast of seeing 'new' linking to threads I have no interest in and can't post in...

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by positron » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:51 pm

Then let's get back to making more power and the endeavor to attain perfect stoich in our lives and air fuel ratio, shall we?

Driver - Ok to clean up my posts as needed to get this thread back on track..

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by silver » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:36 pm

[quote="Positron"]
to wit my point.. it shouldn't matter who requested it.. we does or we don't..
[/quote]


yes dad :laugh:

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by Driver » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:35 pm

I agree Posi, it shouldn't matter who asked. If it was Randy, CalScot, Darth, MadMax or anybody else that asked it should be equally valid. Especially when the running joke is that no thread can stay on topic for more than a page or two. The object wasn't intended to hurt anyone, to trample on free speech, or anything else... Just to give any of our members a clear voice in a crowded room without them having to leave and buy a bullhorn of their own..  :)

And with that I'm heading out back up to the hospital... Please play nice.

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by positron » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:24 pm

to wit my point.. it shouldn't matter who requested it.. we does or we don't..

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by silver » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:18 pm

soooooooooooooooo here's the conclusion to my point.

everyone likes Eddie, by posting that it was his request everyone will cheer hurrah and everyone will play nice and be happy to follow the rules.


that's all I was trying to say ;D

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by Driver » Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:14 pm

Eddie asked for it. Look at the first thread we're trying this out for. He mentioned on the Cobalt forum it's pretty near impossible to follow a build thread and could we try it here. I'm trying to accommodate him in this and I think its a valid point. Look at the full page  of balance shaft discussion on his Chat page to see his point.

If the forum allowed for it I'd make the build thread to where only he could post to it but everyone could read it, if it allowed public groups in such a way I'd make a group for it where people agree to the basic understanding to not take a dump in someones thread, but it doesn't, so is it too much to ask for a little flexibility for the originator of a thread and to respect it.

It was clearly requested in the thread for questions and chat to be posted in the followup thread, 2nd or third sentence in of the very first post. Even provided a link to the Chat Thread (and back). Still the Build Thread was immediately posted in. The reason to have basic guidelines for the sub area is so people don't get all hot and bothered when a moderator moves or deletes stuff out of the build thread. If someone does do a Build Thread and doesn't mind the chat be in the same thread then just post in the regular tech area specific to their Atom (UK, Brammo, Trak). Simple.

As for Bruce's point where someone could just do a BLOG or personal web page. I see that point, would hate to go all over the web for such stuff though. Isn't it better, with a FEW simple guidelines, if we can keep that info and discussion on OUR forum in some manner and accommodate the members of this club?  And options open up too once it's finished. Move it into a standalone page on the Main Website, leave as is, merge back to the main tech page, etc.... Just trying to stay flexible, not saying it's perfect.

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by positron » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:11 pm

Perhaps, but my Dad used to say.. "Don't matter how we got here.. we're here now.. let's work the problem."

Cat herders don't need to know the cat's name's just that they need herdin'..



See now you've got me doing it....  :doh: jacking the thread.. adding cyber pages..  :doh:

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by silver » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:04 pm

i'm not on a witch hunt, I don't mind this idea, what makes no sense is why wouldn't you simply state in the thread...Hey all I was approached by A B and C to start a new subforum for the purpose of X Y and Z...as of now this is not up for debate, give it a try let's see how it goes.


That would be more pleasing and I think would create a more agreeable following versus


It was requested by people that I set this up :H:

Re: READ ME - Custom Build Threads - Expanded Technical Sub Area

by positron » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:59 pm

Wasn't me and don't care for Silver's witch hunt.. sorry son, it serves no purpose.

I can see both sides but with anything new I found it a bit confusing on what's where.. however I do get put off by following a technical thread that gets threadjacked to 20-30 pages rendering it useless. For example look at the WCAII thread it's apparent that no one reads it in it's entirety because members post questions on details that were 5 pages back that were already posted adding more pages.

We're already doing this anyway, look at AFII it started out and then it gets to 50 pages with all the YeeHaw and then has to be posted anew to distill the pertinent facts scattered throughout the 50 pages..

This isn't much different than a sticky that only the originator has control over. I say we try it or respect the originator's request. If the originator doesn't request it to be unblabbered up then jack it up. It would be on the onus of the originator to start a technical or informational only thread and a discussion child thread for those of us who would like to refer back to the technical portions. Or at least comments of technical nature are on the technical side and the conversational "looks great" and threadjack off  subject comments that are not contributory put in the discussion/threadjack thread.

It would be nice if they would be linked so they track together. Also make it to where you don't have to post to it to get a email notification so we can subscribe without posting, adding to the congestion. I'd like to follow but may only post when I have something to contribute.

My two 5/16" zinc washers worth...

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