When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

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Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by Winmoz » Fri Jun 03, 2022 8:34 am

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Took the #BananAtom for it’s first proper drive since it’s conversion to R power spec. Yes it’s manual and yes it’s on Bilsteins, but it sure looks like an R to me!


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Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by autobackup » Thu Apr 28, 2022 5:20 pm

Interestingly a 3.5R is rather quicker with a windscreen and side panels than when the aero deflectors are installed (I have both) - takes about 10 minutes to swap either way but, in my opinion, an Atom is massively more pleasant to drive with the windscreen fitted plus it looks considerably more rakish!

But I would agree that it's quite unusual for a 3.5R with the sequential gearbox not to have Ohlins fitted which completely transform the handling!

The asking price, to my mind, is also rather on the high side - especially as it doesn't have TTX's fitted.

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by Fastlane » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:20 pm

Nice, shame it's got a windscreen and no Ohlins - c.£94k list. I would have thought the Nomad R would be better buy for £100k, given its rarity.

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by AlanP » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:16 pm

Bargain...

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by Yogiatom » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:44 pm

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Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by Yogiatom » Wed Apr 27, 2022 3:23 pm

Yes I have been out in the car I know the owner and his car.

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by AlanP » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:58 pm

Not me!

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by mazza » Wed Apr 27, 2022 2:09 pm

3.5R with sequential just popped up on PH with a dealer in Southend for £100k… says it’s a one owner car, anyone we know?

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by Jamier27 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:37 pm

Mine is a K24

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by kelvin12382003 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:13 pm

Jamier27 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 4:32 pm Since my last post in here I have bought another atom with the R upgrade.. by the factory.

Tho am sure many will say it’s not an R.. it kinda is really :)

When people have the 245 and then send to factory for a retro fitted supercharger they definitely call it a supercharged atom :p
its that K24 or K20 engine?

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by Jamier27 » Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:52 pm

Fastlane wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 5:17 pm
Jamier27 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:17 pm
Fastlane wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:09 am This dealer is claiming that this 2012 3.5 has the 3.5R 350bhp upgrade kit, and so is asking £55k. It also claims it's done 7300 miles, despite the dash clearly showing 9150.

One to avoid.

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This one has been bought now. A young fella has it I diplomatically said I thought it may not be an R and if it’s not wouldn’t be worth anywhere near the £55k and to be careful and speak with Ariel regarding the car.
But looks like it has had the R upgrade without the pods….
As has the 245 rear tyres and just done a 10.9s 1/4 mile at 124… that’s quicker than the 310 would do I think..?
Where did you hear about the new owner's quarter mile time? I don't doubt it had had tuning work done, that was clear in the advert but as Yorkshire says, without a charge cooler, the power will drop off pretty quickly with repeated use. I know a few of us were suggesting on FB that he may have been hoodwinked by the dealer into paying hugely over the odds for a non-factory tuned 310. Then the whole thread discussion got deleted, and I don't think he ever confirmed that it was a factory R upgraded car - he just showed an options list.

Perhaps he'll pop on here to confirm it one way or another?
He’s on Facebook…

He was there today too but hasn’t posted anything yet.
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Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by Fastlane » Sun Apr 03, 2022 5:17 pm

Jamier27 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:17 pm
Fastlane wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:09 am This dealer is claiming that this 2012 3.5 has the 3.5R 350bhp upgrade kit, and so is asking £55k. It also claims it's done 7300 miles, despite the dash clearly showing 9150.

One to avoid.

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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-detail ... posit=true
This one has been bought now. A young fella has it I diplomatically said I thought it may not be an R and if it’s not wouldn’t be worth anywhere near the £55k and to be careful and speak with Ariel regarding the car.
But looks like it has had the R upgrade without the pods….
As has the 245 rear tyres and just done a 10.9s 1/4 mile at 124… that’s quicker than the 310 would do I think..?
Where did you hear about the new owner's quarter mile time? I don't doubt it had had tuning work done, that was clear in the advert but as Yorkshire says, without a charge cooler, the power will drop off pretty quickly with repeated use. I know a few of us were suggesting on FB that he may have been hoodwinked by the dealer into paying hugely over the odds for a non-factory tuned 310. Then the whole thread discussion got deleted, and I don't think he ever confirmed that it was a factory R upgraded car - he just showed an options list.

Perhaps he'll pop on here to confirm it one way or another?

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by Yorkshire » Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:35 pm

When i originally had my 3.5 converted to a 3.5R at the factory they did have both options available with and without side pods. It just meant the charge cool radiator was positioned where the hot weather radiator goes horizontally in the front nose section. If the car has a charge cooler in the intake manifold then it possibly is. If it hasn't and is just has a larger crank pulley and more boost it will only do one quarter mile at that as heat soak will soon reduce its output. I was told 3% loss for every 10 degree increase in intake temp which without a charge cooler is likely to be 60 degrees plus (Over a naturally aspirated). So 350hp becomes 287hp!. Which is why even the normal supercharged atoms feel faster on the first lap than the last.

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by Jamier27 » Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:17 pm

Fastlane wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:09 am This dealer is claiming that this 2012 3.5 has the 3.5R 350bhp upgrade kit, and so is asking £55k. It also claims it's done 7300 miles, despite the dash clearly showing 9150.

One to avoid.

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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-detail ... posit=true
This one has been bought now. A young fella has it I diplomatically said I thought it may not be an R and if it’s not wouldn’t be worth anywhere near the £55k and to be careful and speak with Ariel regarding the car.
But looks like it has had the R upgrade without the pods….
As has the 245 rear tyres and just done a 10.9s 1/4 mile at 124… that’s quicker than the 310 would do I think..?

Re: When is a 3.5R not a 3.5R?

by kelvin12382003 » Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:23 am

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My 3.5r back in 2014


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