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Re: The Bastard's Build

by Guest » Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:43 pm

An AIM datalogger like the MXP is reasonably expensive but not insanely expensive, and also expandable (sky's the limit on how fancy you want to get with sensors). Short of a Motec system, which is $$$$$, probably the best bang for the buck functionality-wise.

A "cheaper" but non-expandable Solo2 DL gets the basics done (IIRC coolant temp, IAT, TPS, rpm, and pre-calculated gear).

Re: The Bastard's Build

by cvjoint » Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:19 pm

Curves Junkie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:49 am PIDs from the Corvette or from the hondata ECU?
PIDs from the Corvette. A guy found the IAT2 PID on his supercharged Caddy and that was the same as the Corvette's.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by Curves Junkie » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:49 am

cvjoint wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:10 pm I used an OBD logger with Dual GPS and Harry's before, it was a bit much at times with GoPro/OBD/GPS. But now I have to wire in the Hondata, I log it in case I have engine problems so I can send it to the tuner. The Hondata software is decent for visualizing the sensors as well. But yeah, you can't add that OBD data from Hondata in Harry's.
I can see at your last video that you use the Hondata Flash Pro. Here you can use "20 hours on board datalogging memory" and you can save with the software FlashProManager or KManager the datas on your PC/laptop.
Check the RaceChronoPro App maybe you can add the Hondata data here - but I don't know it.

Otherwise you use RaceRender 3 here you can insert a lot of formats like video, audio, GPS-data, engine data
cvjoint wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:10 pm Torque was great too. I found some PIDs I could use for IAT and IAT2 to do a comparison on the Corvette. Hondata was supposed to be a temp solution for me but the AEM fried itself just trying to get the latest software and stuck with Hondata because it just works. I like a dumb engine that just works. I think all I have is basic compensation for air and coolant temp lol.
PIDs from the Corvette or from the hondata ECU?

I like a dumb engine that just works.

You make my day. :) :tu:

Re: The Bastard's Build

by cvjoint » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:10 pm

anx10us wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:01 pm So you could use an ODB ECU logger, and then connect that and racebox mini to Harry’s lap timer or race chrono pro ?

The racebox app is great but it’s just lap analysis, doesn’t collect any external data

Clearly you’d also have the challenge of working out the formulas for the correct ECU feeds.

I’d really like to be able to log throttle/brake ?/gears/coolant temps/oli temps etc.
I used an OBD logger with Dual GPS and Harry's before, it was a bit much at times with GoPro/OBD/GPS. But now I have to wire in the Hondata, I log it in case I have engine problems so I can send it to the tuner. The Hondata software is decent for visualizing the sensors as well. But yeah, you can't add that OBD data from Hondata in Harry's.

Curves Junkie wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:19 pm
For the moment I use the android app Torque Pro and an ODB2 Adapter. It's interesting to read that logging with the Hondata is possible and you can export all the pids to a csv-file?

The new Racebox mini who @anx10us use it sounds interesting and the price too but it's BT.
If the interferences are the problem I want to buy from Qstarz the BL-1000GT receiver.

I know you have an US Atom with hondata. My UK-Atom with hondata too doesn't output many sensor datas. I'll have to take a closer look, maybe I can get more information from the hondata via the pid settings.
Torque was great too. I found some PIDs I could use for IAT and IAT2 to do a comparison on the Corvette. Hondata was supposed to be a temp solution for me but the AEM fried itself just trying to get the latest software and stuck with Hondata because it just works. I like a dumb engine that just works. I think all I have is basic compensation for air and coolant temp lol.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by Curves Junkie » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:19 pm

cvjoint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:38 pm
Curves Junkie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:12 pm I talk about the speedo in the upper right corner at the video.

Maybe the 10hz receiver is placed at the wrong place and the receiver get too much wrong electrical signals from e.g. the engine.
I have the Hondata logging OBDII, it's wired in and mounted next to the GPS receiver. But I would think the interference is minimal since it is wired.
For the moment I use the android app Torque Pro and an ODB2 Adapter. It's interesting to read that logging with the Hondata is possible and you can export all the pids to a csv-file?
cvjoint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:38 pm
anx10us wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:19 pm Ive also had problems with DUAL XGPS 150, similar issue with lagging data recorded and large gaps per lap, it never seems to work reliably, have tried placing around the car, very annoying. I have however had great success with racebox mini, 25Hz, gets GPS signal very quickly and seems 100x more reliable ..
I was looking at that as well. What I really need AIM with the logger or some sort of dash and logger combo, because I would love to log some custom sensors as well, like IAT and IAT2s to see how well the intercooler works.
The new Racebox mini who [mention]anx10us[/mention] use it sounds interesting and the price too but it's BT.
If the interferences are the problem I want to buy from Qstarz the BL-1000GT receiver.

I know you have an US Atom with hondata. My UK-Atom with hondata too doesn't output many sensor datas. I'll have to take a closer look, maybe I can get more information from the hondata via the pid settings.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by anx10us » Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:01 pm

So you could use an ODB ECU logger, and then connect that and racebox mini to Harry’s lap timer or race chrono pro ?

The racebox app is great but it’s just lap analysis, doesn’t collect any external data

Clearly you’d also have the challenge of working out the formulas for the correct ECU feeds.

I’d really like to be able to log throttle/brake ?/gears/coolant temps/oli temps etc.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by cvjoint » Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:38 pm

Curves Junkie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:12 pm I talk about the speedo in the upper right corner at the video.

Maybe the 10hz receiver is placed at the wrong place and the receiver get too much wrong electrical signals from e.g. the engine.
I have the Hondata logging OBDII, it's wired in and mounted next to the GPS receiver. But I would think the interference is minimal since it is wired.


anx10us wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:19 pm Ive also had problems with DUAL XGPS 150, similar issue with lagging data recorded and large gaps per lap, it never seems to work reliably, have tried placing around the car, very annoying. I have however had great success with racebox mini, 25Hz, gets GPS signal very quickly and seems 100x more reliable ..
I was looking at that as well. What I really need AIM with the logger or some sort of dash and logger combo, because I would love to log some custom sensors as well, like IAT and IAT2s to see how well the intercooler works.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by anx10us » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:19 pm

cvjoint wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:18 pm
Curves Junkie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:12 pm I talk about the speedo in the upper right corner at the video.

Maybe the 10hz receiver is placed at the wrong place and the receiver get too much wrong electrical signals from e.g. the engine.
I tried under the plastic dash tray and on the chassis just ahead of the shifter. Same (crap) performance from the DUAL XGPS 160 (SKY PRO). And unless I'm totally losing it, it actually gets worse as the unit ages. I'm on the second one.
Ive also had problems with DUAL XGPS 150, similar issue with lagging data recorded and large gaps per lap, it never seems to work reliably, have tried placing around the car, very annoying. I have however had great success with racebox mini, 25Hz, gets GPS signal very quickly and seems 100x more reliable ..

Re: The Bastard's Build

by Curves Junkie » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:54 am

cvjoint wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:18 pm
Curves Junkie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:12 pm I talk about the speedo in the upper right corner at the video.

Maybe the 10hz receiver is placed at the wrong place and the receiver get too much wrong electrical signals from e.g. the engine.
I tried under the plastic dash tray and on the chassis just ahead of the shifter. Same (crap) performance from the DUAL XGPS 160 (SKY PRO). And unless I'm totally losing it, it actually gets worse as the unit ages. I'm on the second one.
The Dual XGPS 160 send the data stream by BT and as I wrote before maybe the engine send interference signals - sorry dont know the correct english words. I use a intercom and here I hear always interfering noise at my headset.
Perhaps it is better to use a gps device that records the gps data itself, e.g. on an sd card or intern memory.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by cvjoint » Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:18 pm

Curves Junkie wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:12 pm I talk about the speedo in the upper right corner at the video.

Maybe the 10hz receiver is placed at the wrong place and the receiver get too much wrong electrical signals from e.g. the engine.
I tried under the plastic dash tray and on the chassis just ahead of the shifter. Same (crap) performance from the DUAL XGPS 160 (SKY PRO). And unless I'm totally losing it, it actually gets worse as the unit ages. I'm on the second one.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by Curves Junkie » Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:12 pm

I talk about the speedo in the upper right corner at the video.

Maybe the 10hz receiver is placed at the wrong place and the receiver get too much wrong electrical signals from e.g. the engine.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by cvjoint » Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:52 pm

Curves Junkie wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:41 am WOW, great blast. :tu: :tu:

Your speedo is too slow. It can not follow your real driven speed. You need a faster GPS-Mouse. >:D ;D
Yeah, but even if I take the time to sync it manually it will be off because it's unreliable. I even mounted the 10hz receiver to the chassis, it just has way too much variance. So either the professional GPS receivers are more accurate with the same refresh rate or the software smoothing they have is better. Either way, I need a more accurate GPS first. No excuse for being 3 tenths off the official time either since the lap start/stop is on the straight and I'm doing over 125mph at that point.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by Curves Junkie » Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:41 am

WOW, great blast. :tu: :tu:

Your speedo is too slow. It can not follow your real driven speed. You need a faster GPS-Mouse. >:D ;D

Re: The Bastard's Build

by cvjoint » Tue Oct 11, 2022 10:56 pm

Set a new PB of 1:39.6 at Sonoma (aka Infineon, aka Sears Point). This is the clockwise (standard) Long Circuit (2.52 mile), a bit more demanding than the moto and chute NASCAR layouts. For reference, a modern Mercedes F1 car did 1:18 here and late 70s/early 80s F1 cars did 1:31s. Also about midpack compared to qualifying times this year in Trans Am TA class which includes things like Gallardo GT3 and 850hp+ cars.

Re: The Bastard's Build

by Curves Junkie » Thu Dec 09, 2021 8:52 pm

:tu: :tu: :vroom: :drool:

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