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cheers Ross

will keep you informed of my progress.

Karl

[quote="kaygee"]
just spent past hour on the site you recommended. The green 1973 911e looks lovely- never thought i would say a pea gren car looks lovely.
Wish i had seen it in a few weeks time- surely can't buy the first car i see!!!!

will be responsible adult, do my homework and take my time- not many 2.4s's for sale though.

Karl
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Yeah, it can be quite a long process - but you'll find the people on the forum very helpful so post up there that you're looking for something and go from there.  Key thing with these old 911s is bodywork and history as they rot like buggery.

Main thing is to get to see as many as possible - you'll get a much better idea what you're after with the more you see.  By the way, don't worry about whether it's RHD or LHD, makes no odds although RHD cars will be more expensive.

I'd definitely go and see the green 911.

Cheers, Ross.

just spent past hour on the site you recommended. The green 1973 911e looks lovely- never thought i would say a pea gren car looks lovely.
Wish i had seen it in a few weeks time- surely can't buy the first car i see!!!!

will be responsible adult, do my homework and take my time- not many 2.4s's for sale though.

Karl

Thanks Ross- that gives me plenty to go on.

all the best

Karl

[quote="Dext37 Fielding"]
You wont be paying anywhere near £30k, look at Autotrader or a car based online seliing [b]thingamajig[/b] that is based in your region...
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Oh and Karl, avoid tips from 'some' people like the plague....

Hi Karl,

No problem, your best for these questions is to join the DDK forums here which is what I did:-
http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/index.php

For £40k you could be looking at a very decent 2.7RS replica - however personally, while I've nothing against the reps, I would prefer a more original classic.  You could probably get a 2.4S for that kind of money, but you might be better doing what I decided to do - go for a more basic T or E, have cheaper fun in that for a while and see how you get on with them.  A good original one is unlikely to drop in price (famous last words of course) so you should be able to upgrade later (by which time an S will probably be about £100k! ;))

A good 2.4 T or E will be between £15k and £20k (I paid £17,500), an S will probably start at around £30k for an average one.

To be honest though, I'm not an expert and the DDK forum is by far an away your best source for information on these older 911s.  Remember to get a 1972 or earlier car though as they're tax free!  There is a nice looking 2.4E in Chartreuse Green on there for sale at the moment that I would have looked at had I not purchased my T a few days before.

Get Peter Morgan's book on classic 911's as well as it's very useful.

Cheers, Ross.


[quote="kaygee"]
Hi Ross

sorry to pick your brains- but looking to purchase an old classic 911 (1970-75'ish)
Just started looking, so haven't got too much info- i have about £30-40k to spend. In your opinion, what model should i be looking for and what should i be able to buy for that kind of money. seen a few rs's on the net and they look lovely but very expensive- also seen a few replica rebuilds of the rs- not sure if they are worth the money or not. Looking for something which won't depreciate and to be used as 3rd car.

any info will be greatly appreciated.

Karl
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[quote="kaygee"]
Hi Ross

sorry to pick your brains- but looking to purchase an old classic 911 (1970-75'ish)
Just started looking, so haven't got too much info- i have about £30-40k to spend. In your opinion, what model should i be looking for and what should i be able to buy for that kind of money. seen a few rs's on the net and they look lovely but very expensive- also seen a few replica rebuilds of the rs- not sure if they are worth the money or not. Looking for something which won't depreciate and to be used as 3rd car.

any info will be greatly appreciated.

Karl
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You wont be paying anywhere near £30k, look at Autotrader or a car based online seliing [b]thingamajig[/b] that is based in your region...

Did anyone see the old 911's on display at the Autosport show?? A retro looking stand, but didn't really know what it was all about ???

Got very excited when list prices stated £4k...  :D ... then realised it was the original price...  >:(

Hi Ross

sorry to pick your brains- but looking to purchase an old classic 911 (1970-75'ish)
Just started looking, so haven't got too much info- i have about £30-40k to spend. In your opinion, what model should i be looking for and what should i be able to buy for that kind of money. seen a few rs's on the net and they look lovely but very expensive- also seen a few replica rebuilds of the rs- not sure if they are worth the money or not. Looking for something which won't depreciate and to be used as 3rd car.

any info will be greatly appreciated.

Karl

[quote="Nick Wright"]
[quote="Bruce Fielding"]
Ask the factory - they sprayed Nick Wright's first Atom that colour, I believe...
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The Atom was Minerva Blue which I think was introduced in the early 80s.

Nice looking car.  When are you bolting the supercharger on Ross?
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;), actually I'm still not sure whether I need Alcons all round and RBBCs....

[quote="Bruce Fielding"]
Ask the factory - they sprayed Nick Wright's first Atom that colour, I believe...
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The Atom was Minerva Blue which I think was introduced in the early 80s.

Nice looking car.  When are you bolting the supercharger on Ross?

Thanks Jon - will do.  Will also create a website with all the history and photos of it at some point.

After digging through the history and talking to an earlier owner, it seems it was originally imported from Germany in 1980 (was white at that point), had two owners until 1986 (was now red) at which point the 3rd owner ran it for 4 years before taking it off the road in 1990 for a complete restoration and return to its original colour of gemini blue metallic.  By 1998, the rebuild wasn't finished so it passed to a new owner who did some more work, but still didn't get it back on the road.  In 2006 it was then sold to a friend of his who restored classic Porsches.  He rebuilt the car and put it back on the road before selling it to a new owner who did a load more work on the car before selling it to me.  In total, it seems to have done about 71,000 miles, almost 70,000 of which were before 1990.

So since it's restoration in the early 90's, it's been rebuilt twice but done almost no miles - I'm hoping it is as good as it seems to be!

Cheers, Ross.

Ross - lovely car, nothing nicer than an original old 911  :tu:

Would love to see it if you're ever near Berkshire

[quote="benyeats"]
K-jetronic is mechanical fuel injection, my first car was also fitted with this system (k-jetronic cis) my current non atom car has k-jetronic cis-e which is a semi electronic system but pretty much the same thing.  The CIS system is used in a sh1t load of different cars, lots of Mercs, Fords, imagine other German kit as well, very popular and simpleish to work on system.

Ben
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Beat me to it Ben, K-jetronic uses electrically operated sensors but is still mechanical.  All of us need to get out more I think!

The Bosch CIS system was barbaric in design. It used a regulated fuel pressure fed into a fuel distributor that regulated fuel delivery by volume into each cyls. injector by using a big flap on a lever suspended in a venturi as a crude form of measuring air flow.It was tempermental to any climate fluctuations,relying on a warm up regulator to increase control pressure to enrich the air/fuel ratio.(and a cold start injector as well) and a variety of electric sensors that  fed imfo back to a crude processor that altered voltage to the main fuel pump and other output devices.
Too rich,too lean,won't idle,fouling plugs,won't start,won't stop....OMG,it was a nightmare. :o :o



I thank GOD for electronic fuel injection almost every day. :angel: :angel: :angel:

Webbers are an excellent alternative to that ancient sloppy fuel injection delivery system.

Many,many cars had all that BS torn out and replaced by a set of downdraft carbs. Better mileage,snappier performance and extremely adjustable to the needs of the owner. :tu: