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Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by benyeats » Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:11 pm

[quote="apollyon25"]
Sticks like s*** to a blanket.
[/quote]

Actually a brand of glue in the UK !

Ben

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by rfmarz@frontiernet » Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:43 pm

When cutting off cable ties, if you use a flush cut electrical side cutter, it will make a very smooth and NOT sharp end. Just don't use that sidecutter for anything else (especially not stainless steel safety wire).

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by Bruce Fielding » Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:13 am

Do the Amish use button ties?

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by bolus » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:51 am

[quote="Mark K"]
Bolus, nice installation with the adhesive cable holders.

Did you try a zip tie gun to tighten your zip ties?  Its a ratcheting tool that makes zip ties really tight then cuts the excess when you're done.
[/quote]

No, I need to get one though.  The ties holding the brake cables in particular seem to loosen when I drive it.  They probably just shift because of vibration to a position where they are slightly loose.  I'll probably replace them frequently when I see that they are loose.  At least zip ties are cheep!

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by Mark K » Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:44 am

Bolus, nice installation with the adhesive cable holders.

Did you try a zip tie gun to tighten your zip ties?  Its a ratcheting tool that makes zip ties really tight then cuts the excess when you're done.

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by apollyon25 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:42 pm

You could also double loop the cable ties.
i.e. wrap the tie twice around the things you want to tie together and then tighten.

This is often employed as an easy strain relief and provides additional friction on the things to be tied.

The 3M tie blocks you have used have provision for a cable tie around the support and should also fit in a second tie around the cable.

If you find the adhesive perishes then I suggest you replace it with 3M 9609.
Its a pressure sensitive laminating adhesive double sided tape. Sticks like s*** to a blanket.

Another thing to consider, if the cabling you have tied securely needs to move and bend and flex like a cable going across the wishbones, then you'll need to have some slack that is progressively tightened to prevent fatigue due to vibration and movement.

J

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by Myerfire48 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:42 am

I like that.  I'm hitting up REI tomarrow, my brake line was rubbing the belt a little.

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by bolus » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:47 am

Thanks,  I'll see how my solution works out once it gets raining.  The holder has adhesive and it's own zip tie and there is an extra zip tie holding the line to the holder.  I cant rotate it by hand when I could rotate it before no matter how tight I zip tied it.

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by apollyon25 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:08 am

In my experience, adhesive backed cable tie (zip tie) mounts look nice until they fall off when the adhesive foam tape breaks down.
Then its out with the solvents to clean the mess off whatever they were mounted to.

If they are rotating, then there are two problems.
The cable tie isnt done up tight enough ...
(use a pair of side cutters to try and tighten them - then cut the end off flush - trust me you'll thank me for that last bit of advice when you next stick your hand in there!!!)
If you position the zip part of the tie next to the smaller diameter and tighten it over it... it wont rotate.

The other option is standard electrical spiral wrap. Although it is tiresome to put on and remove, this looks damn sexy when done to an entire section!

Jared

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by Alec » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:54 pm

If they fitted the UK car I would be packing a set into my luggage after AtomFest.

In fact, if they did fit I have a mate who ships containers of secondhand bikes over to here.

I could get him to put them in one of those, like he did with the seat rail for my Royal Star that wasn't available over here.

Can't wait to see how they mount on, so anyone who gets them fitted, please post photos and details.

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by bolus » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:48 pm

Alec, you should have seen those CF wings.... soooo amazing..... drooooool

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by Alec » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:41 pm

[quote="bolus"]
[quote="Wmcmanus"]
Nice work, bolus.  Did you see the link to the carbon headset spacers on that same web page?  ;D

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/ ... acers.aspx 
[/quote]

I want it though I dont know what I would do with it!  Bracelet?
[/quote]

Bracelet?

At 11/8" you must have thin wrists.

Now if you had fat fingers, you could use it as a ring.

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by bolus » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:19 pm

[quote="Wmcmanus"]
Nice work, bolus.  Did you see the link to the carbon headset spacers on that same web page?  ;D

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/ ... .aspx 
[/quote]

I want it though I dont know what I would do with it!  Bracelet?

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by Wmcmanus » Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:54 pm

Nice work, bolus.  Did you see the link to the carbon headset spacers on that same web page?  ;D

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/ ... .aspx 

Re: alternatives to zip ties?

by rfmarz@frontiernet » Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:08 pm

Bolus, that looks great and very professional!! There's something to be said for doing things just right. My Dad was a German born engineer. He'd have said "now THAT is the right way to do it"!

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